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[erlang-questions] New Book “Erlang Programming” from O’Reilly
Francesco Cesarini
Thu Sep 4 13:46:21 CEST 2008

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Hi Richard,

Unfortunately, you will probably not get any wiser from the book, but I
hope your students will love it. The book covers Erlang in depth. It
has less contents than Joe’s book, but covers them in much more detail.
As an example, we are dedicating about 20 pages on basic Erlang data
types (excluding records, funs, binaries, refs, etc) and well over 25 on
sequential programming (How do you explain recursion to someone coming
across it the first time?). We are trying to cater not only for
experienced programmers who are new to Erlang, but also for those who do
not have a strong computer science background or a lot of programming
experience. I will be using a first rough draft next week when I teach
the students at the IT University in Gothenburg. It will be interesting
to get their feedback and see the results (It gives the saying shoot the
messenger a complete new meaning ).

I am sure O’Reilly will soon publish a table of contents (I think they
are waiting to send the first draft to the reviewers), but a good
showcase of what we are covering is in our training materials, as that
is what we are basing the outline and many of the examples on:
http://www.erlang-consulting.com/training/courses/example.html
Having developed the training material over a 7 year period, we know
they work and that the contents and order in which the subjects are
taken up is optimal. We also plan on a chapters covering the trace BIFs
and dbg, one on a graphics package (not GS), one on interfacing Erlang
with other languages (C / Java / Ruby), and one on testing and TDD.

One chapter will be dedicated to OTP behaviours, but we are just
scratching the surface. Instead, we concentrate on introducing the
problems and concepts the behaviours solve. That includes supervisors,
finite state machines, and client server behaviours, all described as
Erlang processes. To truly understand the power of the OTP design
patterns, you need to understand the ins and outs of concurrency and
Erlang. With that in place, OTP will come naturally. We made the
decision to tackle Erlang first, and use the experiences to tackle OTP
(While laying the foundations for our readers). We should to have an
OTP book out late next year, working on a similar concept (Using our
training material). Prior to that, however, I really hope the other two
books looking at advanced Erlang by Manning and Pragmatic will be out.
They should cover some of your questions.

Regards,
Francesco
–
http://www.erlang-consulting.com

Richard A. O’Keefe wrote:
> On 3 Sep 2008, at 11:28 pm, Kenji Rikitake wrote:
>
>
>> Erlang Programming
>> by Francesco Cesarini and Simon Thompson
>> to be published on December 2008
>> http://www.amazon.com/dp/0596518188
>> (Anybody found the http://www.oreilly.com link? I didn’t.)
>>
>
>
> I didn’t find much about the book (as opposed to its
> authors) in that page. What does this book add to
> the old Erlang book and Joe’s newer one? What is the
> intended audience? Is it going to tell _me_ anything
> I don’t know about Erlang (and there is a huge amount
> of OTP I don’t understand yet) or is it going to be a
> book that I’ll want to give to students?
>

信不过机工的说，还是希望东南引进影印版。。

机工……怕怕……
他们是不是找erlang-china翻译的？如果不是，那算了。

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是要出影印版还是翻译版啊？
Francesco的课不错：）

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有机会直接买影印版的

期待啊~~

Hi Richard,

Unfortunately, you will probably not get any wiser from the book, but I
hope your students will love it. The book covers Erlang in depth. It
has less contents than Joe’s book, but covers them in much more detail.
As an example, we are dedicating about 20 pages on basic Erlang data
types (excluding records, funs, binaries, refs, etc) and well over 25 on
sequential programming (How do you explain recursion to someone coming
across it the first time?). We are trying to cater not only for
experienced programmers who are new to Erlang, but also for those who do
not have a strong computer science background or a lot of programming
experience. I will be using a first rough draft next week when I teach
the students at the IT University in Gothenburg. It will be interesting
to get their feedback and see the results (It gives the saying shoot the
messenger a complete new meaning ).

I am sure O’Reilly will soon publish a table of contents (I think they
are waiting to send the first draft to the reviewers), but a good
showcase of what we are covering is in our training materials, as that
is what we are basing the outline and many of the examples on:
http://www.erlang-consulting.com/training/courses/example.html
Having developed the training material over a 7 year period, we know
they work and that the contents and order in which the subjects are
taken up is optimal. We also plan on a chapters covering the trace BIFs
and dbg, one on a graphics package (not GS), one on interfacing Erlang
with other languages (C / Java / Ruby), and one on testing and TDD.

One chapter will be dedicated to OTP behaviours, but we are just
scratching the surface. Instead, we concentrate on introducing the
problems and concepts the behaviours solve. That includes supervisors,
finite state machines, and client server behaviours, all described as
Erlang processes. To truly understand the power of the OTP design
patterns, you need to understand the ins and outs of concurrency and
Erlang. With that in place, OTP will come naturally. We made the
decision to tackle Erlang first, and use the experiences to tackle OTP
(While laying the foundations for our readers). We should to have an
OTP book out late next year, working on a similar concept (Using our
training material). Prior to that, however, I really hope the other two
books looking at advanced Erlang by Manning and Pragmatic will be out.
They should cover some of your questions.

Regards,
Francesco
–
http://www.erlang-consulting.com

Richard A. O’Keefe wrote:
> On 3 Sep 2008, at 11:28 pm, Kenji Rikitake wrote:
>
>
>> Erlang Programming
>> by Francesco Cesarini and Simon Thompson
>> to be published on December 2008
>> http://www.amazon.com/dp/0596518188
>> (Anybody found the http://www.oreilly.com link? I didn’t.)
>>
>
>
> I didn’t find much about the book (as opposed to its
> authors) in that page. What does this book add to
> the old Erlang book and Joe’s newer one? What is the
> intended audience? Is it going to tell _me_ anything
> I don’t know about Erlang (and there is a huge amount
> of OTP I don’t understand yet) or is it going to be a
> book that I’ll want to give to students?
>

more about this book, follow this:

[erlang-questions] New Book “Erlang Programming” from O’Reilly
http://www.erlang.org/pipermail/erlang-questions/2008-September/037898.html

Francesco有15年多的Erlang经验，不光项目经验丰富，而且在training方面也很厉害，这本书和他很多年的training经验也分不开，所以这本书要更贴近于循序渐进的学习
都很期待这本书

中文的不管翻译的好坏,出版的时间还是比较不靠谱的.看看joe的中文版.交付书稿,到出书估计都花费了小半年.还是先出影印版的.让我们先睹为快么.

Hi all, thanks for the support. You might want to know there is an interest from O’Reily to translate the book to Chinese. I am really looking forward to it! We are now working hard to finish the English version.

Francesco & Simon

赞，作者都过来顶了：）

我看到美国网上有卖了，http://www.amazon.com/Erlang-Programming-Francesco-Cesarini/dp/0596518188/ref=pd_bbs_sr_2?ie=UTF8&s=books&qid=1230187315&sr=8-2

严重期待…

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